Edmond Police seek hit-and-run suspect in fatality crash

http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x935813423/Police-seek-suspect-in-fatality-crash

A 21 yr old motorcycle rider was killed Saturday in a hit and run in Edmond.

http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x935813423/Police-seek-suspect-in-fatality-crash

For those so inclined there is a collection jar at the 7-11 at Danforth and Kelly, just south of where Heartland is. To raise money to help the family pay for the funeral costs.

I'm pretty sure I know Linda Denny. How terrible for everyone involved... wow.
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Another reason to stay the fuck off of motorcycles.....hope they catch the bastard.
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Brules wrote: Another reason to stay the fuck off of motorcycles.....hope they catch the bastard.

I like to pretend that the road is filled with bicycles and motorcycles. This way, I always look when merging, both using my mirrors and looking over my shoulder. I can't tell you how many times I thought I was clear after checking the mirror only to find out differently when I looked over my shoulder. I've had a few close calls on my bicycle. Fortunately those were only close and not actual collisions. I did have a guy intentionally bump me from behind with his car while I was waiting for traffic to clear so I could turn left at an intersection.
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Anreill wrote:

Because it couldn't have happened with a pedestrian or a guy on a bicycle? Statistics show that motorcycles result in a SLIGHT increase in fatalities, but the vast majority of those are caused by cars colliding with them. The problem isn't motorcycles, it's that there are too many stupid fucks on the roads.

Interesting.

I actually did a fair bit of looking into this stuff before I bought mine. Everything I found basically came out to ~5 times more likely to be involved in a fatal accident, with ~75% of those caused by the other driver.

That's what I base slight off of. If you read fully through that page, you'll see that the majority of fatalities involve.

Alcohol (29% of fatalities vs. 21% in cars)
Speeding (35% of fatalities vs. 23% in cars)
Unlicensed Drivers (25% vs. 12%)
Supersports (double the fatality rate of a standard sportbike)
Lack of Helmet (823 people would likely be alive if they'd been wearing one)

My basic point here being that in many cases simply being a responsible rider drastically reduces your chances of ending up as a smear on a nearby road/truck/telephone pole. Yes, if you get in a wreck you're more likely to die, but this can be applied to anything that can be considered a dangerous hobby (Skydiving, SCUBA, etc.)

I've been riding for ~3 years. I spent the first 6 months I had my bike in my apartment complex parking lot. I've never had an accident or injury. I drive the speed limit for the most part and always wear full gear. I know (knew) several people that died on bikes, every instance has been because of their own stupidity (drunk, no gear, excessive speed + pothole.) On the other hand, I know a ton of people that ride responsibly and have for years (several of them riding for 20+) that have never even had an accident.

I'm not trying to outright argue with you, but as always with statistics, they're generalized. Numbers can't account for how people drive, how careful someone is, etc. Most riders are FAR more observant and careful than people in cars. We know that we're in a riskier situation and don't have a steel cage to save us from a wreck. Unfortunately not everyone is the same way and most accidents that I've ever known of that resulted in a death are perfect examples of that. I'm not saying that the statistics are wrong, merely that the statistics only take simple numbers into account. How many of those extra numbers are because somebody on a motorcycle was being a dumbass?

The whole thing is unfortunate, but the simple fact that he was on a motorcycle doesn't excuse any of the other contributing factors. For all we know he could have been rear-ended in the same manner while driving his car and drifted sideways into the other lane to be struck and still died.

And Dan, I completely agree with you, riding has made me thoroughly more of aware of the road when driving in an automobile.

Anreill wrote:
Because it couldn't have happened with a pedestrian or a guy on a bicycle?

Anreill wrote: I'm not trying to outright argue with you, but as always with statistics, they're generalized. Numbers can't account for how people drive, how careful someone is, etc. Most riders are FAR more observant and careful than people in cars. We know that we're in a riskier situation and don't have a steel cage to save us from a wreck. Unfortunately not everyone is the same way and most accidents that I've ever known of that resulted in a death are perfect examples of that. I'm not saying that the statistics are wrong, merely that the statistics only take simple numbers into account. How many of those extra numbers are because somebody on a motorcycle was being a dumbass?